as a witness, i was trained not to feel bad for "those that left us".
if they didn't want to stay, that was their decision.
if they decided to stop the "sweet fellowship" of the brotherhood, we needed to avoid them so that they could miss us, see the error of their way and "come back to jehovah".. when you were a jehovah's witness, did you avoid disfellowshipped ones and mentally stop caring about them?.
Some, yes. Others, no. Two very close friends got DF within a few months of each other (though for unrelated incidents). I would often ask after them thru their "in" family or people from the cong whose territory they were in.
So no, I didn't forget them.
before i begin, i want to say that i really don't want to start yet another creation vs evolution debate so please don't go down that road with this thread.
that debate has been done many times aleady!.
i know there are many christians and other religious people on here who believe in god or gods and yet do accept evolution as the way we all came about.
Any other takers?
it was actually april 25, but that day will forever be etched in my head.
it was when the 119th class of gilead started.
it was my last real shot that i gave the borg.
Happy anniversary! Here's to many more to come!
*clink*
before i begin, i want to say that i really don't want to start yet another creation vs evolution debate so please don't go down that road with this thread.
that debate has been done many times aleady!.
i know there are many christians and other religious people on here who believe in god or gods and yet do accept evolution as the way we all came about.
Dear Stephan,
Please read the subject of the topic.
As a general rule, I don't get into discussions with creationists. It's not worth the time!If someone can deny evolution in spite of the huge amount of evidence, then there's really no chance of having what I would consider a reasonable and intelligent discussion.
meetings and the service has been suspended in mexico according to this pro jw site.
apparently all co's are getting letters to forward to say they can do the service by telephone or letters but not door to door.. the site is in spanish.
http://noticias.amigostestigos.com/actividad-teocratica-suspendida-en-mexico/.
Interesting. Thanks for posting.
I wonder how widespread this will become.
before i begin, i want to say that i really don't want to start yet another creation vs evolution debate so please don't go down that road with this thread.
that debate has been done many times aleady!.
i know there are many christians and other religious people on here who believe in god or gods and yet do accept evolution as the way we all came about.
I think you've got a good point, Davegod. Any notion that we are better than the rest of those we share the planet with is just that - a notion/belief/high-minded idea.
After all, if bacteria were all suddenly wiped out, every living thing on earth would be dead in a couple of hours. If humans were elimanated as a species, nothing else would even notice. So, how does God fit in with that?
before i begin, i want to say that i really don't want to start yet another creation vs evolution debate so please don't go down that road with this thread.
that debate has been done many times aleady!.
i know there are many christians and other religious people on here who believe in god or gods and yet do accept evolution as the way we all came about.
Ok.
But when did God begin to do that? Why doesn't he do it in animals? insects? etc since we all came from the same origins
i found the special talk to be a bit more bizarre than usual as it seemed to invent a parallel dimension in which churches freely preach hate and racial division in contrast to "the truth".
deeply fantasy laden yet somehow vague and unfocused.. what i do find significant is a change in emphasis.
in the past, these sort of talks used to drone on about how wonderful the organization is relative to the evil surrounding world.
I guess they were hoping to have a lot of "interested ones" at the talk and didn't want to start bashing their current religions too heavily.
Just another example of the love they have!
let's try this again...most of us are aware that all available evidence points to the time of jerusalem's destruction at the 586/7bc time frame.
overwhelming evidence includes astronomical phenomena, achaeological evidence, bank records, the bible itself.. some hold to 607bc, for obvious reasons- the implications it has.
thoughts on how this would effect the average witness if forced to conclude 607 is wrong?
They'd explain it away like they do with everything else.
The mind won't see what the mind don't wanna see!
before i begin, i want to say that i really don't want to start yet another creation vs evolution debate so please don't go down that road with this thread.
that debate has been done many times aleady!.
i know there are many christians and other religious people on here who believe in god or gods and yet do accept evolution as the way we all came about.
So, St Ann, are you saying that God intervenes at each and every person's conception? That there's a couple of undifferentiated cells looking for a uterus to attach to yet it has a soul? Does that mean that the huge number of embroyos that don't make it to birth have souls that go on and exist afterwards?
I think this question matters hugely. It's one of the blocks I have to believing in God so I guess that potentially my everlasting salvation is at stake!
